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Media Release: Urewera charges don’t stack up

Date: 20 March 2012

‘We consider the inability of the jury to make a decision on Count 1 in the Urewera case a victory. The inability of the jury to make a decision on Count 1 in the Urewera case is evidence that the crown’s story doesn’t stack up. We have always said that this charge was laid specifically in order that the crown could use evidence it knew was illegal in order to secure convictions on firearms charges. It is a stitch up from start to finish’ said Valerie Morse from the October 15th Solidarity group.

‘The Supreme Court’s decision in September last year stated unequivocally that the evidence was illegal. It couldn’t be used against those charged only under the Arms Act. For the five who were charged under section 98A – Participation in an organised criminal group, the evidence was admissible, despite it being illegal. This charge should never have been allowed.’

‘Operation 8 was a multimillion dollar police operation designed to harass Tuhoe and political activists. After six years, the crown has secured a few firearms convictions based on illegal evidence. This whole episode reveals the sad face of a racist country determined to quash Maori aspirations for sovereignty.’

"We will fight for the freedom of our comrades. We will not cease. Ever. Ka whawhai tonu matou. Ake! Ake! Ake!"

ENDS

 

VERDICTS

 

COUNT 1 – Participation in an organised criminal group – JURY HUNG ON ALL DEFENDANTS

 

COUNT 2 – Arms Act (Nov 2006) – All not guilty

COUNT 3 – Arms Act (Jan 2007) – All guilty

COUNT 4 – Arms Act (April 2007) – All not guilty

COUNT 5 – Arms Act (June 2007) – Urs NOT guilty, others guilty

COUNT 6 – Arms Act (August 2007) – All not guilty

COUNT 7 – Arms Act (Molotov cocktails, Aug 2007) – All not guilty

COUNT 8 – Arms Act (Sept 2007) – All guilty

COUNT 9 – Arms Act (Molotov cocktails, Sept 2007) – All guilty

COUNT 10 – Arms Act  (October 2007) – All guilty

COUNT 11 – Arms Act (Urs and Emily) – Guilty

COUNT 12 – Arms Act (Taame) – Guilty

COUNT 13 – Arms Act (Rangi) - Guilty

 

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CALL OVER DATE 18 April 18 for Count 1

Sentencing Date for Firearms 24 May at 9am

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CALL OVER DATE 18 April 18 for Count 1

Sentencing Date for Firearms 24 May at 9am

But who could take any of

But who could take any of them seriously as principled 'left wing' activists ever again after hearing that they were just training for armed security work overseas (presumably representing imperalist interests).

Poaka "Justice" from Poaka

Poaka "Justice" from Poaka "laws"!

No doubt next time the STG (the "Armed Constabulary") will shoot first and forget about questions.

"principled 'left wing' activists" = Poaka, kupapa! 

 

The true law of Aotearoa demands UTU

 

kia mate ururoa, kei mate wheki

Time for Morse to put up or shut up

So when is Valarie Morse going to explain just exactly what she was doing with those guns?  The armed security story is clearly bullshit. 

why would you even quote her

why would you even quote her in the first place given her ties to the others and her history re terrorist charges. Of course she is going to clain this is a stich up. Reading the October 15 Solidarity releases on this site is like listening to John Key.

Listen to her interview on RNZ from a year or so back. She just dodges the question re the footage of her with molotovs. Shows the same kind of arrogance as when she burned a flag at an ANZAC parade.

These people are all crazy. Why would you need to plan an insurrection in NZ. They have all lost touch with reality.

Crazy. Unlike yourself... of

Crazy. Unlike yourself... of course.

Why would you need to plan an

Why would you need to plan an insurrection in NZ

 

Poaka "laws", Poaka "Justice", Poaka "Soveriengty"...  there are three million reasons! 

 

When Taame Iti is sitting in judgement on the STG Armed Constabulary; when the judgement is UTU according to custom and tikanga; when that judgement is carred out then there will be no need for armed struggle

 

At least 2 of the defendants

At least 2 of the defendants did not use that defence.

No wonder they got firearms

No wonder they got firearms convictions. Jurists hate a split defence. The four defence lawyers should have come to a compromise and forwarded a single defence.

Here's what Mandela said at

Here's what Mandela said at his trial, when he admitted starting the armed struggle that ended apartheid.

"I do not, however, deny that I planned sabotage....

I admit immediately that I was one of the persons who helped to form Umkhonto we Sizwe, and that I played a prominent role in its affairs until I was arrested in August 1962.

The time comes in the life of any nation when there remain only two choices - submit or fight...

It is an ideal for which I am prepared to die."

and crucially:

"It was in our view essential to build up a nucleus of trained men who would be able to provide the leadership which would be required if guerrilla warfare started. We had to prepare for such a situation before it became too late to make proper preparations"

So Fairbrother is right.  Taame is NZ's Mandela, following Mandela's example from 1962.  But unlike Mandela, Taame chose not to spill his guts to a court he does not recognise.

Poaka NZers are so up themselves they cannot see what this trial shows: NZ is where SA was in 1962. 

What a ridiculous comparison,

What a ridiculous comparison, someone ban this fool from posting.

I didn't call Taame "Mandela"

I didn't call Taame "Mandela" - his own lawyer did.

His own lawyer didn't. His

His own lawyer didn't. His lawyer compared the situation and respective states views of both Mandela and Ramos Horta in their early lives. It was the media in their cravings for one liners that Fairbrother, Itis defence lawyer, was comparing Iti to Mandela.

Doesn't change the fact: NZ

Doesn't change the fact: NZ 2012 = SA 1962.

 

Where is our MK when we need it?   Where is our IRA?

 

Kira, wana, tu, tiri, wha—Teihana!

best wishes

 

 This evening, waiting for the news, I picked that the defendants would get off the 'criminal group' charge and go down for some, not all of the firearms charges.

As it turned out, instead of getting it right, the jury equivocated and finally put the big item into the too hard basket. 

Understandable, I think. The defence case was an odd mixture of sincerity and opportunism.

The crown case was based on spying, blind paranoia and an amount of racism.

I cannot believe that a pakeha community could have been shut down and turned over in the brutal manner that Ruatoki suffered.

That said, and with respect, I don't concurr with the October 15th Solidary conclusion :

" This whole episode reveals the sad face of a racist country determined to quash Maori aspirations for sovereignty." 

New Zealand is a country in which racism and struggles against racism have marked all the years of my lifetime. There has been some progess.

I remember years ago,when it was an unbelievably astonishing event for Petone to elect a Chinese man to be their mayor.  

Racism in various forms is still alive and a menace in this country. But I don't sense a national movement determined to quash Maori aspirations for sovereignty. 

Maori aspirations take many forms, stemming from an history of a people colonised, oppressed and latterly viciously exploited as a proletariat. Maori today have very many legitimate demands. Just some of those are better jobs, better housing, better education, better respect for all aspects of Maori culture, better health care, recompense for stolen land.

I believe in every struggle the decisively important issues are the concrete specific things.What does sovereignty mean? Control over your stuff. I think, to be real, sovereignty needs to be spelled out into items. As a historical example, Bastion Point - Maori land. 

Anyway, as the end of this case hangs in the ballance, I wish all the defendants the very best, some of them are long standing friends of mine and in my conviction they are guilty of nothing more than waging persistent struggle to make this world a more gentle and civilised place.


" in my conviction they are

" in my conviction they are guilty of nothing more than waging persistent struggle to make this world a more gentle and civilised place."

The old adage about 'bombing for peace' springs to mind....

 

 

well,

they bombed absolutely nothing you dork.

Jesus, thought that was an

Jesus, thought that was an obvious enough reference without having to spell it out literally....

Obviously you missed the whole 'bombing for peace = fucking for virginity' slogan. It still rings as true as ever whenever someone tries to connect guns and violence to peaceful outcomes.

thank you mate,

I'm totally familiar with that '60's slogan.

 Regurgitated slogans make for lame boring political argument.

Tossing off with guns in the bush - not my thing but a favourite pastime of all shapes and sizes of our society - is quite consistent with a peaceful political strategy.

but they did dupe and use a

but they did dupe and use a bunch of gullible pakeha......"private security training", yeah right!

Yup they even 'duped' that

Yup they even 'duped' that military specialist the crown brought in. He watched the spy footage and said at least part of it was consistant with close quarters protection. 

The fact that the peace activists are not even visible in any of the car action scenes says that there is not just one story here to be told. That is an old crown trick that one, piece together a ton of bits of evidence and try to string one story out of it.

The Crowns story remember was terrorism training camps, which they backed down to terrorism training camps but minus the terrorism word (murder and mayhem, akin to urban slaughter as seen in India of recent times), then backed down even further to, 'somewhere in these activists minds were bad thoughts'.

A jury who had all the evidence (while we only have media single sentence sensationalism) could not even be certain that the Tuhoe people were even a criminal enterprise let alone having objectives to maim and slaughter.

The old adage about 'bombing

The old adage about 'bombing for peace' springs to mind....

Not "The Armalite and ballot box" then?

Better this, better that...

Better this, better that... is not what tino rangatiratanga is about. Sovereignty is not about stuff it is about freedom mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually. Better just doesn't cut it when many or most of your people have no land left to stand on and no self-esteem left to lift their heads.

Good words otherwise Don.

kia ora Nym,

Just to enlarge a bit, I would argue that to be free mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually, people need adequate satisfaction of their material requirements.

 to be free mentally,

 to be free mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually

Most people in this country are generally terrified of what it would actually take to achieve that list for all, its why we settle for an apparition of freedom.

Soveriengty is about power.

Soveriengty is about power. Maori Soverengity, Tino Rangatiratanga, means that Tuhoe, means that Taame should sit in judgement on the Armed Constabulary according to Maori and Tuhoe Law and Precedent (and there is ample of both dating back to 1852 at least) - not the other way around.

 

Instead of Taame in the dock of Poaka Law, the Poaka STG Armed Constabulary should have been judged and found guilty and UTU taken according to Tuhoe laws and custom.  

 

That's what Sovereignty means!

 

 

"in my conviction they are

"in my conviction they are guilty of nothing more than waging persistent struggle to make this world a more gentle and civilised place."

at the end of a gun...

Not sure that i'd agree

Well we don't know if that

Well we don't know if that was the intent of these training videos as it is by no means the entire picture, in fact its probably close to about 30% of the picture.

At least one comment I read by one of the defendants online discussions, talked about militant struggle of some kind but only if they are attacked(or invaded, something to that affect).

Either way the country was not given the full picture by the media because of its obsession with lazy and sensationalist reporting, the jury on the other hand had the full facts without the Dom Post edits.

Either that or they were or

Either that or they were or they were doing what the defence claims, training to be 'private' security guards working for imperalistic interests in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Why exactly would anyone to the 'left' of the spectrum and who opposes violence support either of those goals?

  'Either that or they were

  'Either that or they were or they were doing what the defence claims, training to be 'private' security guards working for imperalistic interests in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Why exactly would anyone to the 'left' of the spectrum and who opposes violence support either of those goals'

 

Good question.

Those goals run absolutely counter to the goals of the defendants I knew.

Why that defence was raised I cannot understand.

I believe the anti war movement is entitled to an answer.

 

 

 

 

I doubt anyone from the

I doubt anyone from the Urewera feels that they owe anyone an explanation for any activities they choose to do on their own land.

Mana Motuhake!Tino

Mana Motuhake!

Tino Tuhoetanga! 

 

Poaka haere atu Ingarangi

"the jury on the other hand

"the jury on the other hand had the full facts"

No they didn't. They had what the police gave them and what the defence lawyers gave them. Whether or not they listened to, read or looked at what they were given is anyone's guess. I saw several jurors sleeping in the court room some days.

Bastion Point - Maori

Bastion Point - Maori land

 

So says some Poaka.   Taame says: All Aotearoa is Maori Land for Ever!

 

 

Bastion Point - Maori

Bastion Point - Maori land

 

So says some Poaka.   Taame says: All Aotearoa is Maori Land for Ever!