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Innocent man shot and killed by police in Auckland
January 26, 2009
Jared Phillips

On Friday 23 January, Halatau Naitoko - a 17 year old Pacific Island father - was shot in the chest by police who were in pursuit of an armed bag snatcher. The shooting took place on the North-Western motorway where the suspect attempted to switch get-away vehicles. Naitoko was driving a van, doing courier work.

The lack of clarity and contradictory nature of the information around the events is troubling. Some reports indicated that shots came from the offender throughout the pursuit but not at the scene of the fatal shooting. Police in early reports on the following Saturday implied that the offender was firing shots at the scene of the fatal shooting. The Herald on Sunday reported that the Auckland Assistant Police Commissioner told a press conference that the suspect's shotgun had one shell in the bridge, indicating a shot had been fired, while witnesses are reported to have said that shots had been fired throughout the pursuit. Some sources say that the suspect fired upon a police helicopter, however, the police could not confirm it. It took the police over 24 hours following the incident to publicly admit that the fatal bullet was from a police weapon. The events still do not make sense to the public who should not have to wait around for a full inquiry before accurate details are made
available.

Naitoko's fiancé Stephanie Cook told the Herald on Sunday that 'I am so angry, they should have been more careful. It is going to take more than an apology. They have taken away my daughter's father - she is never going to know him… I am so angry I hope they get what's coming to them.' In the same report Naitoko's father is quoted as saying `I want justice… I am angry he has lost his life for no reason at all. They could have used different methods to get the guy'.

In its statements the New Zealand Police are appealing for public sympathy. While it is undoubtedly true that the police who were
directly involved in the shooting will be regretful, this is not a reason to defend the police over the issue. Just as Naitoko's fiancé and father have done, progressive forces, community leaders, and others must denounce the shooting. A strong signal of outrage needs
to be sent to the government and the police force. If the police force is not criticised we can only expect a steady escalation of police powers and a normalisation of, or desensitising to, these kinds of incidents.

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Thanks for this article Jared.

Ex-Red Squad leader Ross Meurant has called for the officer who killed Halatau Naitoko to be charged. Meurant has also criticised the Police Association for always defending the actions of the police, even when they have clearly broken the law. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4829617a11.html

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Meurant is absolutrly right to refer to a 'police public relations campaign', this hits the nail on the head

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Thos dumb cops shot everyone but the guy with the gun. But remember, after the Steve Wallace execution, these pigs can pretty much get away with anything these days.

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Yeah, boy, those cops sure are dumb. I'm sure every cop out there has nerves of STEEL when they're getting shot at.

This is an unforunate mistake.

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They could have used different methods to get the guy'.

-- Like what? They were being shot at.

The events still do not make sense to the public who should not have to wait around for a full inquiry before accurate details are made
available.

-- The reason why the infomation was all over the show was because reporters show up and just publish random witness-words. And we all know that everyone sees something differently. Personally, I'm glad they at least admitted it was a police weapon. Let's face it. If the cops were as bad as everyone thinks they are, what would have stopped them covering it up?

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'The reason why the infomation was all over the show was because reporters show up and just publish random witness-words. And we all know that everyone sees something differently.'

The reporters and the media - be they/it mainstream or whatever, have been the main factor in forcing the information out. The cops are scrambling up nice and good for you.

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yeah yeah, they were being shot at while the suspect allegedly had his gun aimed at the heavy vehicle driver - u are fucking stupid alright. jp

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The officer who fired the fatal shot failed to ensure that the field of fire beyond his target was clear. He fucked up. He needs to answer for that in a court of law. If this tragedy was the result of inadequate training, the commanders of the AOS should be in the dock right along with him. Meurant is right.

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I think they just saw a whole lot of brown guys and opened fire dropping anyone that wasn't ducking down, while at the same time pissing their own pants.

All the media managed to do the first day or so was mime the police press release like it was their own, lacking any objectiveness and not having the stones to make the call that the cops had killed two innocent bystanders.

What the fuck is wrong with this country, where is the fucking outrage at this???

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Sorry, killed one bystander and injured another

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"I'm sure every cop out there has nerves of STEEL when they're getting shot at."

If they had nerves of steel they would have just snuck up on him through the vehicles and tasered his ass.

Opening fire through a maze of cars at someone who has a sawn off .22 (as in couldnt hit an elephant at 20 metres with it) with military grade M4A1 assault rifles is just a bad idea.

What were they thinking? Maybe they had the Israel invasion of Gaza in their heads and thought they would blame the shooter for using human sheilds? Justifying their right to open fire and shoot everything in the way? Is that the standard now? Im doing to have to get bullet proof glass put on my hydrogen powered skoda.

This is panic fire through and through and around a busy motorway using rifles that fire bullets at a high enough velocity to pass through a human being and continue on into any object in its path.

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The Armed Offenders Squad are trained to shoot the target in their sights, they don’t go in Rambo style with their guns blazing. The fact that Halatau was shot was because he was the target the officer was looking at through his scope. Possibly due to bad information, or possibly just a gut instinct that the young man was the offender... Either way the AOS are in bad shape. Just another section of Howard Broads police force that are totally out of control. There needs to be a full investigation and trial. If it was some well meaning member of the public that did this they would be behind bars awaiting an investigation and court...

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Paulie - I'm pretty sure the AOS officer would have been aiming at the guy pointing the gun - the moving target - and a round has missed/ricocheted and struck Halatau (who may have appeared in the line of fire in a matter of milliseconds) - I do agree a thorough investigation needs to take place. I only hope we don't see any judicial processes getting out of control.

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Once again we see police in a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

George Fraser LIED to the entire country when he was asked about who fired the fatal shot. He said he didn't know, but he sure as hell did. Every cop in Auckland did: they had all already heard the radio transmissions that TV3 played on their news the following night.

His bias in the matter was betrayed by his trying to curry sympathy for the officers involved when he should have been completely dispassionate and measured his actions and statements by the legal position and the Peelian principles.

At least three investigations are under way into the incident but they are all conducted by local police. The criminal one is directed by an out of town officer. The "Independent" Police Conduct Authority investigation is conducted by local police directed by an ex policeperson. The Coroner's inquiry is run by local police and reports to the Coroner. These are all conflicts of interest and the evidence of a conspiracy is plain in the public statements of the senior police involved.

Justice must be done and must be seen to be done. Anyone else killing someone with a gun would face a court. AOS members are meant to be the elite, and yet not one of them hit the correct target. Remember that the Auckland AOS was headed for many years by Ash Edwards, famous for shooting himself on national TV when demonstrating bullet proof glass at the start of the plaque of bank robberies that saw the introduction of the Eagle police helicopter. He squared up to the glass in a frame in a paddock and let go with both barrels. He was last seen with rivulets of blood streaming down all over him. Another of his highlights was shooting a bunch of cattle with reckless disregard on the Auckland motorway. Not only was the process unsafe, but dead cattle are much harder to shift than live ones so his actions caused the motorway to be closed for much longer than necessary. The man was an idiot and his legacy lingers on.

Seeing the worker's party using this tragedy to advertise themselves is also offensive. Perhaps they should register wankersparty.org.nz.

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"Ashkenazi" accuses the Workers Party of self advertisment in this matter. He or she is consiously playing politics here.
As is well known, in all our public comments we sign up and identify ourselves. We're not suddenly going to be anonymous when an issue is particularly dramatic or sensitive. A better way to go than hiding behind silly names.

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I think the shooters involved in the killing of Halatau Naitoko should be immediately tested for meth amphetamine.

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Tongan Advisory Council chairman Melino Maka believes the police gunman should be charged with manslaughter.
See second half of this news item: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4829970a11.html

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12 comments before an anonymous attack on The Workers Party, possibly an Indymedia record?

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Let it go, dont turn this thread into something about the workers party, its about the death of Halatau by the hands of over armed police.

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we all know nothing with happen to the pig that killed that boy...cause the state does not want to undermine their bullshit rule of law and the pigs who are above it. What is it will pigs killing teen age boys...in Greece, in Australia in Aoteroa ?

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FUCK THE BASTARD POLICE!!!

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does anyone know if he was otherwise known as Elijah?

i think i used to be friends with him.

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Just been on this site looking for O'Connors comments about the real danger to society being Brown Youth.
But it is full of real gems.
http://www.policeassn.org.nz/

16Oct09
“This should serve as an alarming reminder that all international trends in criminal activity and tactics eventually make their way to our shores. We need to realise there are fringe elements in our society, as in all others, that draw inspiration and encouragement from extremist activities overseas that most of us would find horrifying,” Mr O’Connor said.

So I wonder if they will end Military Ops in NZ as GITMO is being closed?

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What is O'Connor talking ab out?

""These officers have been placed before the court for doing what they believe was their duty and the trial has exposed training and policy shortcomings from the Police Administration," said Mr O'Connor. "The Police Association believes such deficiencies expose frontline police and more responsibility should be taken by Police leadership for this, as indicated by the court today."

Answer - Driving Miss (Daisy) Clark

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O'Conner says:
"It is sad reality that dangerous and violent criminals put the lives of others at risk every day. Police are out there every day doing their best to prevent innocent people having their lives ruined by those offenders. That is their job. Very occasionally, in the heat of the dangerous and volatile situations police are called to deal with, bystanders are accidentally dragged into the action with tragic results."

You can almost hear him using the human shields argument.

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It's not an "unfortunate mistake".

When the armed offenders squad came for me, they first lost half their squad in the bush (who proceeded to fall down the bank five minutes later) and second the AOS guy who arrested me spent a long time yelling at me while leaning on his gun with the muzzle stuck in the mud (anyone can guess what that might do), then the fools couldn't even find their way out of the bush and I had to lead them huffing and puffing up the bank as the arresting officer leaned on my arms to help himself up (resulting in damaged nerves and a lot of pain, then numbness for the next week).

If you asked me, I'd say the cops don't know what they're doing and an 'accident' like this was just waiting to happen.

By the way Steve Abbott was pissed off his head after attending the Waitara Fire Service (Xmas?) Party. He was so drunk he had to be driven home that night. A few hours later he's driving around waving a gun at a kid who's just smashing windows. Imagine if that had been the ending of 'The Bone People'?

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And don't worry about the cops. They've got their PR machine running flat out today (at our expense). Oh our poor saviours boohoohoo.

If they really want to help people then why do they need to be police? There's plenty of work to be done outside that 'criminal gang'.

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Yeah youre right about that, that PR machine is getting nauseating. I remember when they had you lot locked up and the police had an open day for the public to come and meet AOS staff and kids could try on their outfits...

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hear hear my friend u speak the fuckin truth. all i hear is defense of the police... wow they regret it... well they should really stop regretting things and get on with SOLVING THE FUCKIN HOMICIDE CASES. respect 2 u anyways bro.

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2 the anonymous person defending them because they had no other choice...

then dont u think if they fuckin KNEW the situation they wud have better prepared and equipped? its lazy and un called for and u are wrong in every aspect

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nothing lower than a kiwi pig, never has been , never will be, this from a yank.

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""""If the cops were as bad as everyone thinks they are, what would have stopped them covering it up?""""

kiwi pigs are so rotten violent & corrupt, they don't worry about "covering up",,, just get lippy and you'll get serviced.
the best kiwi pig is a dead kiwi pig.

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The problem arises from the tooling up of the AOS and front line police with military grade assault rifles that have no place being used in any arena other than war.

The M4A1 assault rifle fires a high velocity round that will pass through a human target and hit further targets. The round has a kill range of about 1.5 kilometres and in certain configurations can penetrate walls of houses etc.

How many situations are there that the AOS come across in the course of their activities that have a clear backdrop where bullets fired from these rifles will not put other civilians at risk.

Most engagements happen in built up urban areas and it was just a matter of time before bystanders started falling to the deck because of the deployment of the wrong rifle and wrong tactics.

I watched with horror on tv last night a stack up and raid of a burger king somewhere in South Auckland. Had the assailents chose to fire back don't those cops know that opening fire in a building like that with the M4A1s will result in bullets passing through thin walls?

Silly, reckless and gun-ho.

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As someone said on the link in the first post:

The only person who should be charged is the offender. The cops would not have had to fire ANY shots had he not gone on a rampage.

Or.. Is what he did okay with you lot, because clearly, you're all just anti-everything that's not vegan. As has been proven by pretty much every other topic here.

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"Respect my authority!" Remember that all activists (read: T E R R O R I S T S) are all vegan commie satanists and the Police are always right, even when they shoot to kill an innocent man!

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Well, all the ones I met have been.

Face it. With a name like 'Porky The Pig', it's fairly obvious your biased. How about you go live on a mountain somewhere, since you don't want to be part of our society so much?

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I think no one in their right minds would argue what the offender was doing was okay. This is not the issue in question, the issue is the way the Police and the AOS responded to the situation.

Paulie, I really appreciate your comment and while I'm yet undecided whether that is really the case or not, it does put a very different (and eye-opening) perspective on these events. It's a chilling thought, thank you.

When this story first broke I recall reading in the Herald how the offender ditched his first vehicle and ran through several properties prior to stealing the keys to the Skyline involved in the long motorway chase. It mentioned a confrontation between offender and police at this point saying how the police demanded that the offended drop his weapon and if he did so they would not shoot. However, I am finding it very difficult to find any information on this now... it's like it has vanished.

I'd really like to know the details of this because I am questioning why the offender was not neutralised at this first opportunity?

There appears to me to be a distinctive lack of media coverage of the events leading up to the chase proper.

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Police protecting their owm mostly Dave. The details of the shooting are now a subject of an independant police complaints investigation, so they will all wrap up tight to protect their gunman.

Fact of the matter is the role of the AOS is changing to a more S.W.A.T style culture rather than a containment function which was their initial role. The focus of their training is the cause of this.

So little of it is about containment anymore, now its mostly killing house training, L.A S.W.A.T styles, bigger budgets, bigger guns bigger damage.

No doubt the coppers will use this opportunity to their advantage, probably propose a full time S.W.A.T team as an intermediary between the AOS and the STGs/Anti-Terror Squad.

What they should be considering is what would have happened had they have been less confronting and followed at a distance and from the air.

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'Seeing the workers party using this event to advertise themselves is also offensive'

The original post was put in local interest and contained only a url at the bottom. So why don't you just fuck off sectoid

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Back on the subject, around 40% of local news items in the Herald today are from police spin central, these coppers are going bananas trying to swamp the media with their stuff in order to counter balance their recent killing.

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When their business is getting bad publicity they shift up a gear into overdrive to remind the shareholders how much good they apparently do and avoid discussing the event that landed them in the crap...

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There's plenty of criticism of the police happening in other fora, as well.

see:
http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/rip-halatau-naitoko/

People are much more suspicious of Police actions now, and are expecting more accountability, despite the spin papers like the DomPost and NZHerald are giving.

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Know your enemy "Fuck the Police"

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FFS if anyone knows of kiwi pigs coming to USA let us know,, we aren't afraid of bashing bad cops here at all.

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No, but like you and almost everyone else here, you are afraid of being identified, hence nobody is posting an opinion and backing it up with exactly whom they are.

Scared of being identified and having Op 8 v.II come down you eh?

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Why not just disarm the police and turn the prisons around into organic agricultural communes and end gender discrimination??

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No one is innocent

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So many people pass comment without the full facts - some are probably valid and others are just jumping on the bandwagon to cowardly abuse others, when they haven't been in any situation that is remotely similar. It is a shame this young innocent man was killed. The facts are not all fully known in the public arena. What is known is that the driver of the flat deck truck said those officers saved his life. He said the gunman had tried not once, but twice to aim at him (the driver). Who knows how long Halatau had been there in his vehicle - think about it - 100 kilometres per hour, you slam on the brakes and crash into the car in front of you, you see a madman next to you so try to escape out the back of your van.........all only in a matter of seconds. And all whilst the gunman is running around trying to aim at someone else. This is not the greatest outcome - I'm sure we can at least all agree on who should not be with us - the offender on the back of the truck who Police unfortunately didn't put down. By the way if you would like to do some more research about Waitara before passing comment - read the report that is out about it - then put yourself in the same situation - I wonder what you would do?