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Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to police

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21/12/2008
From rochelle Rees

Further in the emails sent by Rob Gilchrist to the police counter-terrorism units, was an email sent on 30/07/2005, containing naked photographs of a female and then teenage activist, sent with the subject line “needs a shave….”.

For obvious reasons of privacy, I will not release the photographs themselves or the details of the activist concerned. However I feel that this matter is of huge significance, since this brings into question whether police attitudes towards women have actually changed in the wake of the recent police rape trials, police pornography scandal, and subsequent recommendations by Dame Margaret Bazley.

There is no evidence that the police objected to the “needs a shave….” email, and clearly Rob Gilchrist had reason to believe that police would want to receive such an email. On the contrary, the fact that the police continued paying Rob Gilchrist $600 per week for over another 3 years, shows they did not view his conduct as grossly inappropriate.

Also discovered on Rob Gilchrist's computer were naked photos of a then 16 year old activist, which look to have been taken while she was sleeping. Naturally, I am left wondering if those were forwarded to the police, and whether any photographs of a similar nature were taken of me and sent to the police.

Rob Gilchrist also had photographs on his computer he had taken of the previously mentioned 16 year old girl, and another 16 year old female activist, taken seperately, with them posing with his guns. This included shots of one of the said girls posing with one of Rob's guns pointed to her head, and in her mouth. The photographs showed these girls in various outfits, including full camoflague, and some of one of them with a towel in her hair, clearly having just got out of the shower.

A rather large pornography collection with some disturbing videos and images was also present on Rob Gilchrist's computer.

If at the time of our relationship I had had any knowledge of Rob Gilchrist's sexist attitudes towards women, or his now obvious repeated interest in very young women, I would not have gone near him. The whole thing makes me feel sick.

For further information, please contact:

Rochelle Rees
Email: rochelle.rees@primary.geek.nz

Comments

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

Its clear that Rob has a disgusting attitude toward women and acts in an abusive and cowardly manner.
What of the child pornograpghy i have heard he had on his computer?
In any case, he deserves no protection from the consequences of these actions. He has hurt many people, including those too young/vulnerable to defend against him.
I hope he is made to answer for every single violation.

Kia kaha people.
Solidarity!

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I'd say this was it, Anon. 16 is only the legal age for sex, you got to be 18 for nekkid pics.

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Under 18 is Child P0rn, if judged to be p0rn.

Sounds like the kind of stuff found on the Christchurch Cops Computors then they got all indignant that it was part of their job.

Either way well worth passing on to that Canadian in Wellington

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This attitude by the S.I.G is disgraceful, but sadly consistant with the wider issues surrounding police culture.

This find on police employee Gilchrists computer is consistant with the undercover police culture that various enquiries in the past have tried to confront but have failed to mitigate, including the recent enquiry that lead to the Louise Nicholas case going to court.

All the officers involved with the rape of Louise Nicholas were ex-undercover agents involved in intelligence gathering.

This type of view towards women by the police intelligence community is also consistant with the general attitudes the police have towards rape victims where it is sometimes easier to get a police visit over an expired registration on your car or an anti-capitalist protest than it is if you are raped.

This is also consistant with the allegations that arose of beasiality videos being played at the police commissioners house...possibly a reason why the police are so anti the animal rights protest groups.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

Oh gee what a surprise - not.

But still you don't mention the bestiality and child porn and video from a camera in a women's toilet. Plus that there were allegations of him being a pedophile.

Wake up.

was he a vegetarian?

Just wondering.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

I'm not excusing Rob for his pornography and his two faced behaviour, but I hold the police responsible for condoning this behaviour, even encouraging him. Rob has mental health issues and needs help. The police have a responsibility for paying for this help because they've exploited his personal issues for the state.

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I thought satire was supposed to be funny?

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Oh, it's genuine. My bad.

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It was quite obvious to anyone who had seen Rob Gilchrist at meetings that he was very interested in 16 year olds. I am surprised anyone who supposedly knew him well can be so naive.

If he indeed has mental health issues then that could excuse his behaviour and perhaps it is counter-productive to keep on slagging him off. He needs help not condemnation.

The police should certainly not have encouraged this activity. Spying may be a legitimate police tactic; adolescent giggles over girly shots certainly is not.

Michael Morris

Workers Court

Gilchrist should be judged by a workers court not by the bosses' laws. They are made to be broken by their ruling class stooges. Workers need to have their own laws.
I would suggest 10 years hard labour in a community garden as restitution for his crimes against workers and his theft of workers wealth at $600 a week for 10 years.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

I would suggest referring any material of girls under the age of 18 which is of a sexual nature, especially if there are nude photos, and photos of her asleep, to Department of Internal Affairs Censorship Compliance Unit.

As under 18 porn = illegal/ considered kiddy porn

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What is Robs diagnosis?

I keep hearing Mental Health, but I've got "Depression" which for me comes out at its worst in violence to myself and at the earlier stages acting a bit like Jake the Muss (although I'm not that good at fighting). Taking anyone on, anytime, for anything. I was that guy who got in the fight to lose.

Mental Health is a bit of guess work but what's his issue. He needs to feel special, important, approval his Dad never gave him?

Which if Rochelle knew he was a bit nuts, does that mean suicidal too?

This would be why the Justice System allows name suppression until proven guilty or at least while the cops are getting their case together and the accused is getting their affairs in order.

That he has admitted his acts of spying, does that take equal advantage of his illness in seeking attention as the Police did?

He Rob lives with such delusions of grandure and importance, doesn't it undermine any charges resting on his evidence. So also justify outing him?

My head hurts now.

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Thanks for putting yourself on the line like this Rochelle, it can't be easy to have all this to deal with. I hope you have loving and supportive folk around you to keep you strong and that you come through all this okay.

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fuck this guy is scum.

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The issue is Gilchrist the paid employee of the Special Intelligence Group paid to spy on leftest groups, organistions and political partys.

Like any lowlife snitch Gilchrist acted in a way that was contrary to his character. He acted like a lefty but was a low life scum of a man who sold his soul to satan many years ago.

No big surprises he has acted in this way, but this is about state spying on people. This is no longer about who the state has the right to spy on, because they have crossed that line a looonnggg time ago and there is no going back for them. Gilchrist is just one in a long line of sell-out servile scum that think its cool to be a spy. There are more like him and there will be more like him.

Our role in this needs to be centered on ongoing exposure of state institutions that spy on us.

Exposing the rather large 'Society of Secrets' gang that have the means, money and mindset to set up and maintain intricate intelligence gathering networks amongst activists and anyone, and I mean ANYONE deemed to be disloyal to this country's ethos, government, police force and military.

But in particular the anti-globalisation activists are the ones targetted by these groups, which SIG are just one of the many.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

He mihi nui Rochelle. You have showed incredible strength and courage. Kia kaha.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

So Rochelle has copied all the emails ever sent/received by Gilchrist? Ouch!

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Weak. There're worse Emails out there. Look up third world bomb squad. Let's face it, if some hippy is going to get naked and have her photo taken, you've got to expect it to turn up in random places. IE: The internets. That's the thing you people don't seem to understand. Granted, if he has child porn on his machine, that's bad. But getting all fired up over an Email that's taking the piss? C'mon, you lot. You wonder why people are view you as the 'bad guys' now days.

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she was 16 , dickhead. a child.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

The only people that view activsts as the "bad guys" are the intelligence units in the society of secrets like the Special Intelligence Group, and big business. Now which one of those two groups won't you admit youre a member of....

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

Was it this guy that informed Rodney Hide of Rayna Fahey protesting a few years ago at parliament in a naked anti-GE protest?

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"Spying may be a legitimate police tactic"

Does this take the cake for the stupidest comment in last 9 days or so?

Guess this is the reason why Rob fooled so many of you. You are fools yourselves.

How many beleive this comment?

Not many I hope.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

To those who referred to the Anti-GE naked protests - all involved in that were fully adult activists, fully consenting to the public nature of their exposure, and fully aware of press photogrphers and TV media present at the event.

What has been discussed here by Rochelle is a completely different kind of situation, not at all involving legally-defined adults, and I doubt involving consent for publication or distribution of images.

The Internal Affairs porn squad do investigate the Police for porn on computers, in fact it made the papers very recently (?2006) that they had a huge stash of downloaded material which was being removed from the Police National Database. Obviously, under those circumstances, police officers in 2003-2005 receiving porn pix from Gilchrist would've been perfectly comfortable with them, as there was so much porn floating around the building then anyway.

Rochelle, I suggest you get in touch with Phil Priest, at Internal Affairs, or if he's left, whoever replaces him. Those images may not have been identifiably of girls under 18, but if you can name and identify the subjects, then the pictures are actionable to the person sending them, and the person receiving them.

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Re: Anarkaytie

I know that, I also know that Rayna, who was working for the Greens at the time got busted by Rodney Hide, in fact, it was in the news.

Deleted files....

Rochelle, have you done a recovery on deleted files?

it would be interesting to see what else hes been viewing and sending.

This guy needs to go down....

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

If I was the Father of that 16 year old girl, I'd want to see Gilchrist taken out.
Maybe an offer of $600 to Christchurch's Skin Head community, to carry out the job.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

That would be stupid. I do not want to see any of that sort of action take place and I think you must be an agent provocateur paid for by the SIG yourself for even trying to propose it on an open forum as this.

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I agree. Not likely to happen either. Rumour has it he also traded information with fash.

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

This Rob guy reminds me of another activist that is a sleazy creep by getting involved with much younger women. Fortunately now he is no longer living in Aotearoa.

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Well shit comes flying at all angles. Just gotta dodge it and keep on fighting, yeah, people? This country still isn't as fascistly fucked over as so many others around the world.

Keep up the struggle e hoa ma... ka whawhai tonu matou... you know the rest...

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

Personally, I do not see anything wrong with anyone having images of nude people provided that image has been taken with their full consent and they are 16 years or older as this is the age of consent in New Zealand. And spare me this "She's only a child", "It's child pornography" or "It's sexist" crap! After all, is it not the right of a woman to be able to do what she likes with her body or does that only apply when it comes to abortion or when it is self-serving such as taking part in a protest?

No one seemed to have any problems with Rob Gilchrist when he was seen as a loyal activist with his habit of chasing after very young women (Rochelle is about half his age) but the moment he was exposed as a police informant it suddenly became a problem.

You lot have no moral integrity: at least as long as the anarchists continue to allow a key activist in their ranks in Auckland with a well known history of beating the crap out of his girlfriends, often to the extent of putting them in hospital, you can stick your bullshit about being so concerned about the treatment of women up your collective arses.

In fact, when it comes up to morals, you lot put the fundamentalists to shame for hypocrisy. You wail over naked images of 16 year olds but say nothing about violence against women when it's done by your own people.

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Auckland activists are also well-known for double-parking, jaywalking, and similar serious crimes. But the issue you raise is water under the bridge. The guy concerned has apologised and has now lived several years of strife-free life with his partner. No need to make an anti-jafa campaign out of it!

Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to police ar

Here something amusing about the trolls that hang out here.

www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Internet_troll_personality_disorder

The treatment is very funny!

DO NOT FEED THE TROOLS!

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

"Personally, I do not see anything wrong with anyone having images of nude people provided that image has been taken with their full consent and they are 16 years or older as this is the age of consent in New Zealand."

Miles the point is that the women involved apparently didn't give their consent for at least one of the photo's to be taken (she was sleeping at the time) - and I really doubt any of them gave consent for those images to be sent on to the cops. I hope you can see that these actions are a major betrayal of trust.

"...but say nothing about violence against women when it's done by your own people."

I think you'll find that is simply not true.

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Activists can be vicious and backbiting to each other (though probably no more than any other group), but I don't know of any incident in which one was bashing up their girlfriends and putting them in hospital. Even Rob never did this as far as I know. This is not to say it did not happen, but it is a very serious allegation, and requires serious evidence, not no evidence at all.

I know of one incident where an activist was ALLEGED to have been a rapist, but he was expelled. This may be the same one mentioned a few posts back who is no longer in New Zealand.

Michael Morris

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

Hi Rochelle

Thank you for doing what you are doing.

In response to some of the remarks here, I think we let it go on because a) we were young, b) we were focussed on the causes we were working for.

I remember something Rob convinced me to do during a stayover in Christchurch during a protest, this was done by coersion, persistance (i.e. constant pressure) and lies, in the end I am responsible for my actions but I was young, out of my comfort zone, a long way from home, and scared of making a scene if I left and went back to the others, I also dismissed it as I had bigger things (i.e. the protest) on my mind.

When all of this came up, as a grown woman who has done a lots of personal work to deal with some of my experiences I can see this in the light of what it was - a fortysomething man, elder figure in a community, repeatedly pressuring and lying to a late teen/early twenties woman to do something she clearly did not want to do.

In the light of my current understanding I see it for what it is, and, now I've learnt, I wouldn't put up with that behaviour again. I think we've all learnt.

It's really hurt me how people have been talking about the womyn that Rob abused in the course of his dealings with the police, and the police complicity with this. It hurts to feel unsafe like this.

Rochelle, I want to express my unconditional support of you and your mahi at this time. You have my permission to do whatever you need with any information i have given you.

Nga Mihi Arohanui

Daniella

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

I heard that this Rob is a dirty man with no morals who always used to have BO issues what a loser.
And he drives a Hyundai. who buys a hyundai?

Re: Rob Gilchrist sent naked photos of teenage activist to polic

When I commented on this article yesterday I made a couple of errors that resulted from having an absence seizure that meant I missed a couple of vital points with the result I made a couple of assumptions that were out of line. For that I apologize.

I'm ready to accept when I am wrong or have overstepped the mark.

So what are we going to do to prevent someone else from doing what Gilchrist did?

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Surely the more important point is, what are we going to do to change the bad decisions that were made at Gilchrist's instigation. And what about the numerous folk who were alienated or booted out after he made "accusations" about them?

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Actually, no. Alot of people see you lot as the 'bad guys'. Why? Because you cause trouble. Do you think anyone from SIG would give a shit about this website? I doubt it. You all think you're so special and the cops are ALWAYS after you. Grow the hell up. You start breaking laws, you get arrested. Simple.

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According to the information in the 60,000 pages of bullshit handed to the defendants of Operation 8, another SIG project, they watch this website like a hawk.

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Actually Yes, this website is pretty much all the Special Investigation Group have to justify their existence and get the information to write up their shoddy reports. The SIG have 20 odd 'special' cops trying to combat 'terror', if they're not regulars here it will only be as they are too busy exchanging illegal pornography with their other low-life counterparts.

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In a nation of moral pygmies, Gilchrist is shorter than the rest.

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i keep coming back to this article, trying to work out how rob got away with all the crap he was doing within different activist groups for so long.. only to get to the point of working thru it to where all I can say is the reasons that he was able to get away with it (his spying, abuses of trust and abuse of young women) is because its not really all that unusual, this kind of stuff is totally normalised by this whole society that we live in and we cant be entirely separate from it ourselves since it has brought most of us up and we see it all the time in activist groups. Robś behaviour with women is well normal!

Most men (giving a small few a break) act and behave Rob-like. They are predatory and like to have their egoś boosted with younger females that they (think) they can dominate in a paternalistic power trip but are really just objectifying as trophies for their friends to see instead of the unique people that they actually are.
Basically most men suck and Rob is just a shining example of normal conditioned behaviour and of what is fucked up in this culture of patriarchy and exploitation of wimmin/people/animals.
jo p.

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Has my comment for some reason been removed? Not too concerned, just alittle confused...

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nz.indymedia appears to be controlled by the NZ Police and/or Mossad - anything too close to the bone goes pretty quick.

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"Most men (giving a small few a break) act and behave Rob-like. They are predatory and like to have their egoś boosted with younger females that they (think) they can dominate in a paternalistic power trip but are really just objectifying as trophies for their friends to see instead of the unique people that they actually are.
Basically most men suck and Rob is just a shining example of normal conditioned behaviour and of what is fucked up in this culture of patriarchy and exploitation of wimmin/people/animals.
jo p. "

I'm a 40+ heterosexual male who finds attractive young women (those aged mid teens & above}, pleasing to the eye, the more state of undress the better.
But to manipulate a 16 year old girl into bed, & take nude photos so as to pass onto the Police for their own gratification, is something I find abhorrent.

Gilchrist should have joined the 'Centrepoint Community', he would of had more in common with Bert Potter & his ilk, than well meaning activists.

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Quite a man-hating tirade from someone who obviously has some issues to deal with. the point about Rob is he was not displaying his trophies to his friends. He was keeping his activities secret. His cop minders were certainly not his friends. See how they have abandoned him now. The only friends he had were in the activist community, and he shafted them.

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Rob actually went around "bragging" to his (Christchurch based)male activist friends about his exploits with young women... things like where to pick up under age prostitutes, and about how he was getting laid by 16 year olds. That he wasn't challenged on this and it was seen as normal male conversation is grossly sexist.
jo p.

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As the comrades of Wgtn Animal Action found out quick, to have challenged Gilchrist on his behaviour would quickly get you branded a "witch" by him (or its modern equivalent, a "rapist".) And as we have all seen too often, once you are accused of being a "witch (aka "rapist") in the activist community, you are guilty. No trial, no evidence needed, just the unsubstantiated accusation of a ball-less secret policeperson.

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Sad to say that I have to confirm that he went around bragging to male activists about this in Otautahi. Some years ago I was in the Safe office and overheard him bragging to its director about this and then the director said he did the same thing. After I got over the shock of this I went out and warned as many people as I could and then dropped activism within Otautahi. I just couldn’t be bothered with such a unenlightened culture.

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Looks like misogyny is the norm in old swampy Christchurch.

http://indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/76411/index.php

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not a man-hating tirade.. perhaps u just need to read it again slowly.

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I read it slowly, fast, upside down and backwards, and it is a totally unconstructive man hating tirade. I don't really know what the poster is trying to prove with that piece of verbal vomit, but extraordinary claims like that require extraordinary evidence, not no evidence at all.

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"Rob actually went around "bragging" to his (Christchurch based)male activist friends about his exploits with young women... things like where to pick up under age prostitutes, and about how he was getting laid by 16 year olds. That he wasn't challenged on this and it was seen as normal male conversation is grossly sexist.
jo p."

Challenged by who ?
How come it took so long for this to all come out?

Surely there must have been older women in the group, in close contact with the younger teenage female members who would of been aware, & seen the warning signs of a 40 year old male group member (who's not even good looking),screwing the new naive teenage recruits.

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"Surely there must have been older women in the group, in close contact with the younger teenage female members who would of been aware, & seen the warning signs of a 40 year old male group member (who's not even good looking),screwing the new naive teenage recruits."

Why is it that people instantly assume that young women are too thick to make their own decisions...

And if they do make decisions concerning their sexuality, such as sleeping with older men, taking provocative photographs etc. - the guy is always seen as the 'baddie' and the female is always "the poor girl who has been taken advantage of".

Come on! Young women are not dumb. Just because some choose to have sex with men who are 40 years old, it doesn't make the girl a 'victim' nor the guy a 'dirty old man'.

Lets face it, there are a lot of young women out there who enjoy having sexual relations with older guys. Get over it.

16 is legal. So is 17.

Judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

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Dear 'get over it',

The point I was trying to make was why should it (in regards to the other post) have been left up to the male members to challenge Gilchrist.

Once it had become obvious that Gilchrist was a sexual predator, with a keen eye for teenage girls, he should have been ostracised from the group.

What the hell has the law got to do with it ?
I'd still write this post if the age of consent is 14.

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Hey. SO was Rob a vegetarian?

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I would be careful about identifying someone as a 'sexual predator' simply because he has an interest in females who are of the legal age of consent - as the term 'sexual predator' is commonly associated with persons who have committed sexual offences. From my understanding Mr. Gilchrist has not been convicted of any sexual offences.
As mentioned in my previous posting, females of the legal age of consent have a brain and mind of their own.
Morally, you may have a point. But morals vary from person to person. The law is what matters.

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Yeah right !

Someone taking photos of nude teenagers, for their own and other peoples (the police)gratification is not a sexual predator, give me a break.

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was that sarcasm or not? I can't tell.

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I hate to break it to you... but, well... a lot of females over the legal age of consent actually not only want their photos taken by males, but they actually want to have sex too. Shock horror! There are females out there who want sex and have healthy sex lives!

Yes, sex DOES exist out there! It happens, between consenting persons of the legal age. And yes, sometimes they take photos. Big deal.

sx

Yeah, but this guy sent the photos to the police...

cmon - thats a clear breach of trust at the least

thats what makes me think hes a dodgy mofo

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That is fine so long as the person being photographed, is fully aware they are being photographed, & to be accompanied with remarks about her pubic region.
But I have a feeling this particular 16yr. old was unaware that she was to be a victim of voyeurism, which I believe is against the law