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NEW ZEALAND ARMED INTERVENTION FORCES DECLARES WAR ON NZ GOVT

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View Kelvin Alf, head of the N.Z.A.I.F being interviewed by Tame Iti at http://aotearoalive.com/breaking_news.shtml

N.Z.A.I.F leader and defence minister of the Maori Government Kelvin Alp announced today in an interview with Aotearoalive.com, that they have declared war on the New Zealand Government, army and police force.
View the interview at http://aotearoalive.com/breaking_news.shtml

Contact the N.Z.A.I.F via their website.
http://www.nzaif.com

Published on Jun 28, 2002

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Lunatics and fascists

well, I was wondering about the NZ AIF, and decided to have a wee look what sort of stuff they are into. All I knew about them is from a documentary on the leader
Kelvin Alp, that was on telly a while ago. He lives with his mum in a flat
in auckland, and has a few guns
so I had a look at the website and the most informative bit was the links
page.

Heres a few of the groups that the NZAIF considers to be its allies...

www.davidicke.com
David Icke is a fascist nutcase. He sued a newspaper last year for calling
him a racist and he lost, badly. I cant remember all the details but I had a
quick look at his website it certainly convinced me that he is one can short
of a sixpack..
For his explanation of how all the major US presidents and their families,
and all the european royalty are all descended from ancient reptiles from
outerspace read this
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/temp/reptconn.html
Apparently George Bush senior is well known for his ability to shape shift
into reptile form

Do't take my word for this though, hear him speak and make up your own mind.
hes the star attraction at the 4th Annual bay Area UFO Expo in California
soon

www.celticnz.co.nz
This is the website of a Mr Martin Douche, who claims to be an
archaeo-astronomer, which means he travels around the world looking at hills
and rocks to see if he can find two that line up and point to the moon or a
star on a certain night which proves that the rocks must actually be
evidence of pre polynesian celtic druids who built temples and other wierd
stuff here. He also doesnt like paying for his drivers license..
The funniest bit is the page where he draws a plan of an old Maori church,
and then draws lots of circles and triangles all over the plan and then
compares these with a bunch of circles and triangles that a french guy drew
all over a plan of a french church and amazingly the circles and triangles
are the same, thus proving that either medieval french church builders and
19th century Maori both knew how to build church that had straight walls, or
that both civilisations in fact learnt how to build churches according to
ancient astronomical knowledge passed down by mysterious aliens from outer
space who invented triangles and circles before anyone else had thought of
them. Mr Douche believes in the second explanation cos thats much more
exciting than the first one. And, just in case you don't beleive me, the
medieval french church is not just any church, its the church at Rennes De
Chateau which is the most famous church in France if you are in any way
interested in conspiracy theories. (A couple of hundred years ago the vicar
there discovered some mysterious papers written in code in the walls and
when he read them he gave up christianity and build a little statue of a
demon and then spent all his money on booze and orgies, and for some reason
the church were too scared of what was in the papers to stop him. Since
then, every decent conspiracy theory has to have a reference to this church
in it otherwise no one will beleive it!!).

www.williamcooper.com
seems to be a standard USA right wing nut site. on the front page there are
links to articles about gun control, the truth about the oklahoma bombing,
UFO,s the occult, mind control, secret societies and the evils of
"communism"..

www.apfn.org
American friends and patriots Network. right wing nuts against corrupt
government. not all government, just the corrupt ones, in otherwords
everyone thats not them
Lots of flags and eagles all over this website
They are campaigning agaisnt gold tassels on american flags. apprently the
US govt uses flags with gold tassels on the ends and this is not the real
flag of the U$A.

so, anyway, if the NZAIF considers these nutters to be friends of theirs
then the NZAIF are fucken loonies

Re: Lunatics and fascists

Firstly you should edu-f'in-cate yourself before you establish anything as a fact, as to these are your views and opinions. Facts are:
David Icke has been labelled a conspiracy theorist however if you believe you believe if you don't that's your choice or manipulated status.
Secondly, Mr Alp does not live in a flat with his mum, the interview was conducted there I believe however just because something is taped at a location doesn't mean someone lives there, so if get taped by a CCTV camera in the city do I live on the bench as I was sitting on it? No. Please know the facts Makr before you comment as to your view you perceive to be true, which clearly I'm proving isn't.

So if the NZAIF considers someone a friend does that mean does with a common ideal or goal makes the other a nutcase? I don't like George Bush but because Helen Clark is a friend to him does that mean she's a nutcase? No, but personally I don't like her either, not that I'm suggesting im extreme right wing, so don't manipulate into a simple factless skeptic arguement. As for occult abductions Cathy O'Brien provides good interviewing in this field. 78% as average from all polls (whether rigged in some peoples eye's or not rigged and independant) suggest Bush is a war criminal plus the same result as to 76.2% think 9/11 was an inside job.
Opressed people will always exist but I guess you don't know much about the learnings of that except what you've been conditioned into learning through the government's standard of education, which is now after years being told it's failing and higher education making kiwi's go oversea's because of high interest and debt, the same system this government and banks run. That's why partly Mr Alp may believe banks, monetary policy and oppression of peoples are present for the destruction of a good society. Oh and Mr Alp does not any longer lead the NZAIF according to information which is present also and cross referencing all of what I said, all proves as to fact not opinion likes your addition to this website or page.

Last note, alot of people jump the gun and say Mr Alp is a coward and lives with his mummy and is Maori extremist idiot, well meet him and learn the facts like I have given or ask him yourself and you will see quite the opposite of what fools and media give as to account which is lies or manipulated nonsense.

Re: Lunatics and fascists

Firstly you should edu-f'in-cate yourself before you establish anything as a fact, as to these are your views and opinions. Facts are:
David Icke has been labelled a conspiracy theorist however if you believe you believe if you don't that's your choice or manipulated status.
Secondly, Mr Alp does not live in a flat with his mum, the interview was conducted there I believe however just because something is taped at a location doesn't mean someone lives there, so if get taped by a CCTV camera in the city do I live on the bench as I was sitting on it? No. Please know the facts Makr before you comment as to your view you perceive to be true, which clearly I'm proving isn't.

So if the NZAIF considers someone a friend does that mean does with a common ideal or goal makes the other a nutcase? I don't like George Bush but because Helen Clark is a friend to him does that mean she's a nutcase? No, but personally I don't like her either, not that I'm suggesting im extreme right wing, so don't manipulate into a simple factless skeptic arguement. As for occult abductions Cathy O'Brien provides good interviewing in this field. 78% as average from all polls (whether rigged in some peoples eye's or not rigged and independant) suggest Bush is a war criminal plus the same result as to 76.2% think 9/11 was an inside job.
Opressed people will always exist but I guess you don't know much about the learnings of that except what you've been conditioned into learning through the government's standard of education, which is now after years being told it's failing and higher education making kiwi's go oversea's because of high interest and debt, the same system this government and banks run. That's why partly Mr Alp may believe banks, monetary policy and oppression of peoples are present for the destruction of a good society. Oh and Mr Alp does not any longer lead the NZAIF according to information which is present also and cross referencing all of what I said, all proves as to fact not opinion likes your addition to this website or page.

Last note, alot of people jump the gun and say Mr Alp is a coward and lives with his mummy and is Maori extremist idiot, well meet him and learn the facts like I have given or ask him yourself and you will see quite the opposite of what fools and media give as to account which is lies or manipulated nonsense.

Re: Lunatics and fascists

Its funny how you can even think you're the only one that knows whats going on, simply by casting a negative viewpoint on these organisations without backing it up with proof! Sounds all too familiar doesn't it! Personally, I think you've prematurally evacuated! Not forgetting the spunk either!

In many of my escapades, I've learnt. That just maybe I'm wrong. I know we all make mistakes. Thats one of the facts of life! And with you being an exception, doesn't accurately reflect your intellectual capacity. Irrespectively, knowing that NZAIF are NOT AFRAID to do what others are excusing themselves of, your contributing services to do what is necessary could also be constructive, to say the least. Yet, theirs truly are services for others. And that's a good thing isn't it! So, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. And maybe, just maybe there's something that might be useful for you. All I can say is, someone has to do it! Blood, sweat & tears!

It's obvious you're not a member of the NZAIF. I'm assuming also that you haven't served in the armed forces either. All mouth, NO SUBSTANCE! Typical! And you present yourself to be a true 'patriot' by throwing sh*t at everyone because you think you know what lies behind the deception plans of the world governments!

Nor, have you even bothered to analyse the above relationship of the supporters for their noble cause. Yet their services have good intentions for whatever purposes they may be. With that in mind, it's not something that you have to accept. Nor should it be anything that you have to reject either. Take it, or leave it! It's your choice! Simple! And thats what it's really all about... The whole 'shabang'. At least you still have the freedom to choose. And NZAIF or their 'fans' are not the ones who are trying to take that away from you either. Do you really know what Helen Clarkes 'Labour Electoral Finance Bill' is all about? How about the 'epidemic preparedness bill', therapeutic bill etc.

If its a 'fear factor' thing that's goin on inside you, then I do understand why you're so defensive and scared. It's not nice when you stand back and realise that your services were not designed to free yourself from financial burden. Rather, it was embellished to imprison you into a false paradise. You're obviously not strong enough to face the true perpetrators. And, this justifies that which seriously needs to be desired? Just rest assured, things will be okay! Look beyond the propaganda & subliminal tactics and you'll see, there's something else happening behind the scenes.

Meanwhile, I suppose with just a little bit more trust, courage, patience & compassion for others... Maybe you'll be an astute, fine & sharp warrior. Isn't that the 'Kiwi' spirit! Black or white, it dosen't matter! Now, I'm - only assuming - that you don't have any of those qualities. So, you feel your attack mode is appropriate. Yet, they're only predicable & anticipated only by the wiser.

Thankfully, you're not responsible for your 'knee jerk' reaction. Because this mess every citizen of all nations are involved in, is out of the control of the governments. Meaning, there's nothing they can do to stop whats going to happen. And, I'm not talking about an uprising either! It's something more bigger than that! Literally speaking, more bigger! You'll see it soon, and coming from the skies if I might add. And of course, all will be revealed when the reigns have switched hands. Thus, revealing the true colours of those who are selfishly using the police & armed force units to sheild & guard themselves from an attack from an extremely angry public reaction. Of course, it's the governments choice. To tell the truth. And, to stop the lies! Because, it's your life that's at stake here! Yours, your family and friends... even neighbours you haven't even met! Life after all, is the most precious gift for everyone.

Additionally, the truth is all these people are after. Combined with a release from a controlling society that has deceptively been mechanised by governmental systems and conniving attacks to cripple the threats. By making you appear to know details enshrouded with crap, in order to expand ones awareness does not correctly serve all physical or spiritual curiosities. And, to just simply exercise what they believe to be true, surely there's nothing wrong with that, isn't it! But you seemingly, presented yourself as being the 'know all' and yet, only reflected a contrast of arrogance with a f**king know all attitude. If I was you, take my advice. Find the facts out first!

Now the question is, do you trust me when I say that NZAIF may have only just scraped the surface of a cause that will benefit all New Zealanders. Even the oppressors in government. And the shape-shiften thing about George Bush senior... Honestly, that does sound hilarious. However, I don't know whether thats true or not. I can tell you this, I've seen some f**ken amazing things that today's military units does not want you to know of. And, because I know it's unbelievable, that doesn't make it bullsh*t either. After all, what you see is what you get, isn't it! Just know this! Intimidation tactics always runs dry when they meet a formidable force! Especially, from loyal citizens who are not afraid to take out these perpetrators. Believe it, or not!

The people of all nations haven't seen anything yet. But will be soon! And what they will see will still not remove your 'veils of denial'. Thats okay! It's your choice. In saying that, it will eventually. Because its your freedom thats at stake here. And, its your life NZAIF, their associates & friends are aiming to protect. The good thing about it, theres still time for people - like yourself - to wake up and accept the facts, that maybe... just maybe there is something else out there thats happening.

To elaborate further, have you even bothered to ask yourself why there are increased storms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, freak tidal bore, 200 km ocean vortex 1000m in depth travelling at 5kph above Australia (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19340338-1702,00.html). The fear factor, eating bugs, survival of the fittest, DIY thing, brat camps, wife swap, neighbours at war are only a few scenarios that have been indirectly communicated to you via the media networks, in order to prepare you for worst to come. Or do you think its just mere entertainment?

What I do know, this supposed secret (NOT) that George Bush senior knows of, he's not going to tell you and I either. And, you know that as well. Why the f**k should he care about us anyway. Because, the truth is... he doesn't. Nor do some members operating inside the 'ILLEGAL GOVERNMENT' here in our green acres of New Zealnd. But don't take my word for it. Afterall, I could be talkin a whole lot sh*t as well! Right!

Respect!

Nationlism vs. Self Determination

I think they are the type of activists who are reling on the fact they have a deal with the royals so that gives them partnership to run the country. Not really the self determination of Tino Rangatiratanga that most indymedia supporters would be down with. Moari activists (in my pakeha opinion of course) distance themselves from this nationalistic bullshit? Just the fact he uses the label New Zealand and Army shows allot! Moari have never got anywhere asking for favours from thier oppressors. Anyway I won't complain if this nut case decides to go out and top some cops but I'm sure nobody but other nutters will support him!

Re: NEW ZEALAND ARMED INTERVENTION FORCES DECLARES WAR ON NZ GOV

ANyone wondering if its this lot arrested in the Ureweras yesterday?

Re: Re: NEW ZEALAND ARMED INTERVENTION FORCES DECLARES WAR ON NZ

I would say this is the same bunch of loonies.. and i would say that the NZ Police have finally got enough rope to hang these guys (so to speak)..

Re: NEW ZEALAND ARMED INTERVENTION FORCES DECLARES WAR ON NZ GOV

Kelvyn Alp is an egotist, he has crafted a very careful but ultimately false persona around himself. The most idiotic thing about the man is he truly believes his own fantasies.

Re: Re: NEW ZEALAND ARMED INTERVENTION FORCES DECLARES WAR ON NZ

Kelvin Alp was removed from the New Zealand Defence Force some years ago. During his time in the Army he was stating that he was undercover for the New Zealand Police which was totally incorrect. I feel this man lives in a dream world of his own and should be watched carefuly which he is now by certain agencies. He is an attention seeker that likes to be in the lime light. Thats his choice but it will do him no favours in the long run.
A very strange person.

Ex Army

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HAHAHAHA Alp was never "removed" from the Military you fool. Get you rfacts straight, in fact, the very reason you are all grasping at such straws to find out any tangible information about the man is because he only let's you know what he wants you too.

I would say that is a very capable operator - I note also that an ex-CIA operative has paid tribute to him recently in an article in the Solomon Star - now why would he do that unless there is more to the guy than you are all lead to believe.

Typical isn't it, you're all afraid of that which you do not know or understand! Go hard Alp, anyone that rattles the cages of the control freaks is alright by me :)

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FUCK OFF YOU NIGGAS!